JB: Well, you are clearly into the big questions. Does anything less than everything mean nothing to you?
BARBOUR: I'm nothing if not ambitious in that way. How well I succeed is another matter, but it keep's me happy trying.
JB: Are you so in love with the universe that you have to pretend human emotion?
BARBOUR: Absolutely not. No, I'm human emotion through and through, but I love the universe too. I would love to show that the universe is as rich as it appears to us through our senses and not rather drab as it appears in science. For me one of the great miracles is colors, and different sounds and sensations. This is the problem of the qualia. I would love to create a physics in which they exist and form a fundamental part of the physics just like mass and electric charge do. But that really is a distant dream.